Anyone have experience with the new ELAC DDP-2?

 Apparently all the hifi developers are hardware guys who think software is just an after thought.   When my streamer locks up mid song and I not only have to shut it off but unplug it to clear the problem,  then it doesn't matter how good it sounds when it's playing,  my listening experience has been ruined.   It appears that Elac is trying to avoid some software problems by relying on other people's software.   Good luck.   Auralic states that they are giving up on Android software and only developing iPhone apps.  Good luck in kissing off half your market.   I have a suggestion,  farm out your software development to a company that specializes in that sort of thing. 

Completed the latest firmware update on the DDP-2.. Very simple process. 

Rick Allen,

I am curious about your final opinion and disposition of the DDP-2.

Thanks for prompting me. I ended up returning it. As a DAC and probably as a preamp it’s really really good. I was primarily interested in a streaming DAC and it does most of that, but too many of the features advertised weren’t fully baked so rather than hope they would be all that I would like, I decided I would risk going beyond the no return policy to find out.  

The DAC is really really good. I kind of wish they left streaming out of it and just made a really good DAC because it sounds great. The filters on it are arguably too subtle to differentiate, but there was some slight flavor difference between them. 

Didn’t get to try it as a pre amp since it was going straight into an Integrated amp, but the sound quality from the DAC section was very encouraging. 

Overall, I’m going to wait a bit and let them flesh out the software and try some different standalone streamers with a standalone DAC.  Probably going to try an R2R just to see what the fuss is about and thinking of the MHDT Orchid for that first. 

Dealer in full discloser. Have some more experience with the DDP-2 as a DAC and as an analog preamp, I total agree with rickallen81, " it’s really really good". Sounds like high end separates. I have used it both as a DAC and preamp together for many weeks.

I’m new to the server, streamer, end of the hobby. We have had many separate DACs and preamps using laptops and tidal for streaming. My question is the same as some of yours, whats up with a streamer? If I need a computer either way why add it? Sounds like I’m paying for something that is inadequate for its purpose, if so, why add more stuff?

This is where the server, streamer, end point device has been confusing to me. I remember the times before digital anything existed. Mixing a computer with my audio is kind of forced on guys like me. I like the convenance and selection of streaming. You can always buy the music if you like it, so I’m learning.

For streaming with the DDP-2 you still need a music server (another word for computer). This runs your music and operates your service such as roon, Spotify and many others. The DDP-2 is a roon endpoint. This means that roon will recognize the DDP-2 as a device on your network for you to select and stream to. The list of supported services includes PCM, DSD, DoP, Roon endpoint, Spotify Connect, MQA..

I have been using a Discovery music server, but there are many available and a computer will work too. One important note when using the DDP-2 with your server; the DDP-2 and your server must both be connected to the SAME network preferably over an ethernet connection. This allows them to communicate.

In my case I had been using my laptop for serving and ran a USB cable from the laptop to the DDP-2 and streamed tidal that way.

Most recently using a server has been nice. The server and the DDP-2 are connected with ethernet cables to our wireless router. My laptop is connected to the (LAN) network wirelessly as a controller for the app.. Now the laptop is used for many things and it not tied up just for audio streaming. The DDP-2 is directly connected to the router with a short ethernet cable. The audio is not being processed through my laptop any longer and the laptop is free to move around the house.

Being able to connect direct to your router and LAN, then streaming direct to the DDP-2 works very well. Thats the streamer part.

It is not a server. Thats the computer that is used as a source and human interface.

Hope this helps and is not confusing. Happy to answer questions. I will ask the factory guys any questions you may have, that I don’t have answers to.