Jazz for aficionados
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Thought I would listen to St. James infirmary. Good stuff. My rating is 1,4,2,3,5. I like the PHJB. I like the others but it sounds like Armstrong and Toussaint are just coping the intonation of PHJB. Which along with the timing is what the piece really is. It is my view though. Just don't let me hear I am wrong. I might cry in my scotch. |
The real reason they lag behind the U.S. is, they are not free people. And there are all sorts of hell holes. Some are like most prisons, noisey, violent, people acting up and out, chaos. And then there are some that are like Super Max prisons. As quiet as a Tomb, and just as safe. And those places are reserved for the worst of the worst. They break harden men. Sort of like Finland. The Finns even imported and adopted the TANGO, to see if they had any passion. They don't. They are the antithesis of New Orleans. So are the rest you named, with the exception of Hamburg. I am beginning to think Schubert went to Europe and went native on us. Cheers |
Just so rok, just so ! Few realize the role that geography plays in destiny. One reason foreign cities lag so far behind a great American city like New Orleans is poverty-stricken ,crime-ridden hell-holes like Montreal, Copenhagen,Oslo,Stockholm ,Helenski, Hamburg etc are just too far north for the human brain to develop true mental acuity . |
Jazz Aficionados: Entry level test given to all aspiring Aficionados. Should be a piece of cake for you guys. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5VDMbeBsDQ[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrzpinslpzU[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzcpUdBw7gs[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3IL8q8ahWI[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSeXzeQK7pk[/url] And the order of finish is _ _ _ _ _ Do not consider sound or recording quality. Cheers |
"The Bright Mississippi"; the interesting thing about that glistening muddy river from St. Louis to "Nawlins" is that the culture of the people along the river, and the music are so connected. "Board plank floors and Juke Joints", are another interesting aspect of the music, the river, the culture, and the people; I suppose when you put them all together, you got "The Bright Mississippi". Enjoy the music. |
Glad you enjoy it too, Rok. I actually did search on Bright Mississippi and saw a number of old posts about it but didn't quickly find any that were specific to Jazz Aficionados. Would have been surprising had it not been discussed (and gotten some love) in this thread. I'm a lot more a blues/rock "aficionado" than jazz so what surprises me about this recording is how much it holds my interest. It isn't music I'd have predicted liking, but it absolutely swings. "...music of New Orleans. Without which, there would be no Jazz." - very true. |
Ghosthouse: "The Bright Mississippi" has been talked about and praised on more than one occasion on this thread. Is it Jazz? It would be more accurate and informative to call it, music of New Orleans. Without which, there would be no Jazz. As it happens I was reading the interview of Toussaint in 'DownBeat' this morning. If you don't have DownBeat's "The Great Jazz Interviews", I can highly recommend it. $25 on Amazon. It's one of the few CDs I keep on my desk in easy reach. I play it often. I always visualize this music as being played is a fairly large and sparsely furnished room, with a floor of wooden planks. Southern comes to mind. Cheers |
Merry Christmas to you Rok. BTW - I was thinking about you, Orpheus and the other regulars that post to this thread. Wanted to recommend to all that haven't heard it yet, Allen Toussaint's "The Bright Mississippi". It is a really wonderful recording. Called jazz by some (though to my ear, not in the same way as something by Miles or Coltrane...the songs date from an earlier time). At any rate, it's a 2009 release and, as usual, I'm late to the party having just discovered it. So if this is old news, apologies for that...nevertheless might be a good reminder and something worth dusting off to listen to again. Happy New Year to you all. |
Listening to some Metheny tonight , and was wondering, why is "First Song (for Ruth)" not a standard? Does it deserve to be? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hzGscogkmU Does this change your mind? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drvi-9LVClk |
Thanks to you, fellow aficionados, this has been a very good year for new acquisitions. What's amazing about my "new" acquisitions, is that they were not current, with the exception of "Dee Dee Bridgewater". Larry Willis was someone I missed completely, but that was before the age of personal computers, and so much good music came out in the 70's, that it was easily missed. By attempting to stay within my chosen genre "jazz", I was probably unaware of good music that wasn't in the jazz section at the music store; and quite naturally I looked at the well known chosen names first. Now I'm catching up to all the good music I missed, thanks to you. Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year! |
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Another recent arrival: I feel that current Jazz artist are a lot more versatile, or multifaceted than the greats of back in the day. When you look back and think about it, they seemed to, with few exceptions, stay in their comfort zone. This woman may not be the greatest ever, but she may be the most enjoyable to listen to, ever. She is like Wynton, in that she does everything, and does it at the highest level. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSeXzeQK7pk[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2MVmC55T5s[/url] No filler. All the tunes on the CD are listed on the youtube page. Check them out. You won't mistake this Orchestra as being from Cuba, NYC, or the West Coast. No uncertainly as to where this is coming from. Of course Dr John is a dead give-a-way.. These various 'orchestras' or Big Bands, seem to be a lot more nimble than they once were. They pretty much play like small groups, just with a fuller sound. Cheers |
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I never heard of Larry either O-10 . Only reason I bought his CD at Goodwill was it was a Mapleshade , even with no liner . Listened to " Solo Spirit " half-dozen times. Mr. Willis is a big deal to me, tons of soul in the most general sense of that term . Just ordered 2 more of his CD’s on Amazon ."This Dreams on Me" and" My Funny Valentine " |
This is the first time I recall hearing Larry Willis, although I probably heard him as a sideman. Yes! There is a big deal on Larry Willis; there's a big deal on any body who can play at this level. The problems in jazz, are caused by people who can't accept "evolution". "If it doesn't sound this way or that, it's not jazz". Let them keep their definition, and I'll accept the music. I bought a lot of LP's on sale, after this LP came out, that were of this genre, that I haven't played. As soon as CD hit, all the excess LP's of that time were almost given away, and I've still got new LP's to sort out; but buying a new cartridge is not on my things "to do list". This CD has been added to the shopping cart. Frogman, so many people played Be-Bop after Bird's demise, that it's not worth debating. The only question that remains is, "How much of it was of the same quality as Bird's bop."? Enjoy the music. |
Popular / Jazz groups playing Christmas music comes down to the arrangements. None better at that, than this group! [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBt9DQJOO-4[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdHaavcD7_Y[/url] Cheers |
Is Larry Willis a "big deal" in jazz? Too broad a question. If Willis is a big deal, then what was Bill Evans, Bud Powell, Wynton Kelly, Hank Jones; and what is Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, Kenny Barron? If we are prepared to call them huge deals, then maybe. Willis was an excellent pianist, highly respected by his peers; and, yes, a very elegant player. Not quite at the very top of the list of great players, but very versatile (he played in the band "Blood Sweat And Tears" for several years). Bottom line: any pianist chosen by Cannonball, Lee Morgan, Art Blakey and other greats as sideman has got to be pretty darn good. Classic record from the jazz-funk era: [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCQtHEUJTmg[/URL] |
If MacArthur had been in command in Europe, or even overall command in the Pacific, there would be a lot more guys playing with their great great grands these days. He said Ike was a damn good clerk. MacArthur was a bastard, but a brilliant bastard. The best General this country has ever produced. Few people liked him, so he must have been doing a lot of stuff correctly. Mediocrity hates brilliance. Cheers |
**** He sure is an elegant pianist , is he a big deal on jazz scene ?*** He has played with a lot of big time folks. He is music director for Mapleshade Productions. I have the CD 'solo spirit' and one other. I assume this is the one you have. Its on the Mapleshade label. They record a lot of solo stuff. Interesting liner notes and tunes of a religious Nature. Is he a big deal? A question for The Frogman. I would guess it would depend on who you asked, and in what context. Nice CD. Generals are like Doctors. You may not trust this one, or that one, but in the end, you gonna trust a Doctor. Cheers |
Yes, he was never forgiven at alma mater for telling the truth. Even more so for telling all in government to "never trust the Generals" on a regular basis . Total US casualties in WW II were at 420 K, not all in Europe obviously . Most military historians are of the mind that the German and Japanese forces had some role to play in that. NO nation, or group of nations, in the world has any M-I complex remotely as expensive as ours on a per-capita basis or any other basis . Greatest danger to USA, by far, is its debt . |
Good News, for me at least, I am not losing my mind. I did just purchase a CD with Porter, Salvant and a woman named Rene Marie appearing as singers. It was not the Harold Mabern CD, but the Marsalis / JLCO Christmas CD, "Big Band Holidays' It's a good disc. All the tunes are on youtube. But there is a WTF? factor. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6mvjnhwrEs[/url] None of the singers are credited on the CD. Their names do not appear anywhere on the packaging or notes. They sing the same tunes as is shown on youtube, but they do not receive any sort of acknowledgement on the physical CD. WTF indeed!! There is nothing to say, except, It's Ray. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mshJwa4aXrM[/url] Cheers |
One of its greatest grads said about all there is to say on that subject in his farewell address. The greatest speech ever made by a US President and completely ignored There can be no doubt though the view up the Hudson tops Sandhurst , St-Cyr, Bundeswehr-Hamburg,, NDA-Yokuska et al, though RMC-Kingston gives it a run for its money. |
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The Frogman & O-10: My Taste in Jazz-- You cats say my taste in Jazz has changed or improved, but man, you cats could not be more wrong. You see, my Jazz appreciation and understanding is so deep, and on such a radical trajectory, that you couldn't dig me at all. But I dug you, 'cause you two were coming from a more shallow bourgeois track. Dig? Frog, glad you dug the cat's wail on 'swing.' Later |
Rok, three excellent clips! While I have never questioned your taste in music, nor ever thought they needed to "improve" as O-10 suggests they have, I certainly think they have expanded; a perhaps subtle but important distinction. If liking that baritone solo in "Let There Be Swing" is not proof of this, I don't know what is 😎. I particularly liked the Mabern "Afro-blue". Porter sounds fantastic; and, rarity of rarities, a tasteful horn-like scat solo kept short and with no wrong notes! Eric Alexander! Man, that guy can play; amazing tenor solo. Thanks for the great clips. BTW, as you yourself pointed out the "Que Viva Harlem" band is a band of students. In many ways, given the changes in the place of jazz in our culture, the schools are the "street" of the past. There is a lot of really great stuff going on in some of today's Jazz schools and this shouldn't be dismissed. Two of the best, North Texas State and University of Miami (my alma mater): [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUitSU5-8mQ[/URL] [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_PtxehQPK3g[/URL] |
