Jazz for aficionados
Replaced Wayne Shorter in Miles’ band at 19 years of age! Possibly the greatest of the post-Coltrane tenor players and another who had to overcome a serious drug dependency. Amazing player: [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-RpPr08P5Dg[/URL] [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NVp9iadLqns[/URL] |
In keeping with my New Years resolution to be more direct, I need to make an observation: Perhaps unrelated (hopefully) and just a coincidence, but it seems to me that when the discussions here turn to non-music topics, and politics in particular, and there is disagreement some of participants in those non-music discussions disappear for a while. Unfortunate. I am all for discussions of any and all topics remotely related (or not) to music, but perhaps we could all stand to have thicker skins and be big boys (and girls?) and hang tough and secure with our opinions; or simply stay clear of those other topics. |
motoman, great stuff that clip of the TV show. Always amazing to be reminded that music of that quality was recognized and featured in mass-media at one time. Alexatpos, thanks for the Hawes clips. Beautiful player with a distinctive rhythmic feel; and a fascinating story. Beautiful brush work by Stan Levy. Thanks. |
Sometimes when I am in the mood, I spin this album after that one mentioned above. Louis Armstrong and the Good Book, I belleive his only album with spiritual songs. [url]https://youtu.be/bvEmq-cX0G4[/url] [url]https://youtu.be/WIZ5u1qf0Ns?list=PL3CwNENEYkJ0z_Sx7hhg03UlGRWYvo0DB[/url] |
Spaeking of jazzmen who ended up in prison, because of possession of drugs, one should not overlook the faith of Hampton Hawes, who was sentenced to 10 years in prison, only to be pardoned by JFK after serving 5 This is the album that Hawes recorded while he was expecting trial. No wonder that themes are spiritual, it is called the 'Sermon'. [url]https://youtu.be/NNtl1NdvfhU[/url] [url]https://youtu.be/MLqa3xqSxNo[/url] [url]https://youtu.be/qscWuGsBAJg[/url] |
Don"t forget the Big Band http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShge1fmWgA O-10, look up Widows Taste website, interesting reviews of "Straight Life". Also some recently released recordings of Pepper's. |
jzzmusician, don't know if you spin vinyl, but this is a favorite record of mine. Great reissue with fantastic sound (in mono!). Highly recommended, and available! [URL]http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/50083/Duke_Pearson-Tender_Feelins-200_Gram_Vinyl_Record[/URL] |
All of the above are phenomenal suggestions, and the number of fantastic recordings make it difficult to pick out even four or five. So I will try to suggest one that hasn't been mentioned and is a little obscure: The Sound of Jazz - A TV special in 1957. The show can be seen on YouTube, amazingly enough. The album from that session was EPIC. Red Allen, Billie Holiday, Lester Young, Count Basie, Mal Waldron . . . A must listen for any jazz aficionado! And to be able to see them play (although not great video quality) makes this special set even more special. This was the first time that Lester and Billie played together after their long rift, and Young died not long after. For more info on this amazing session, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sound_of_Jazz |
Schubert, race has been used to elect the people who gave us this present "Corporatocracy"; and the constant threat of terror, has been used to take away our rights. We have always perceived that if someone else's rights are taken away, that's OK because it's not our rights; but it's their rights today, and our rights the next day because now we're left with no one to help defend our rights. Acman, what did Art Pepper go to prison for? |
Having been there in the 40's and 50's Jazz musicians were assumed to be drug addicts by the general populace of the USA . Easy pickings for cops and DA's looking for an slam-dunk collar and conviction around election time . Many pleaded because attorney knew jury trial was hopeless and would just get them more time . Black guys didn't need attorney to tell them that . |
*****Rok, what did Billie Holiday go to jail for? What did Art Pepper go to jail for?****** The laws / attitudes have changed. Back in the day, a guy was sentenced to 1500 years in prison for possession of one joint of weed. Happened in Dallas county, Texas. The thinking then was that draconian sentences would stop the spread of drug use. They were wrong. You have no valid argument. Cheers |
Lord, Lord, my burden is great. Where in my post did I say 'well to do' or 'rich' meant white? And it may be / is, unlawful regardless of who is doing it. We were talking of punitive measures for using drugs. And if the cops don't see it, they don't know it. Rich and well to do means privacy if nothing else. And The Godfather. When was the last time you saw a mafioso on a corner pushing drugs? I will bet all I have, that there were NO drugs being sold in the Godfather's neighborhood. You do the math. Cheers And BTW, you go to Jail for intent to sell or distribute. Not use. |
You're making o sense Rok, which is nothing new. If a well to do (white) person buys and uses an illegal substance it's ok; but if an African American, Hispanic, or musician buys and uses drugs it's a crime. That line of thinking is nothing new except when all those young people began overdosing, then "We got a problem". My heart pumps purple panther pee for the problem if that's the outlook. |
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O-10: Drugs, and drug addiction, only become a problem for society if the people taking drugs and those hooked on drugs, CANNOT afford to buy them. The implication being, they must commit crimes in order to support their habits. Then it's a problem. What rich, or, well to do people do in the privacy of their homes, does not attract the attention of law enforcement. What street thugs do on the streets trying to get the money to buy drugs, or 'protect' their 'turf' to sell drugs, does attract the police. As it should. I don't think any well known musicians were out robbing and killing to support their habit. The only people they hurt were themselves and their fans. Apple and oranges. Cheers |
Rok, do you remember that statement in "The Godfather", about the intended market for hard drugs? That line of thought has been able to sell a lot of things; but now we have unintended consequences, and the heroin user is a 21 year old, blond hair, blue eyed, resident of the "burbs". Maybe law enforcement will have a different outlook. |
Although David "fathead" Newman is primarily known for his work on tenor sax, he's also a fantastic flutist. One of my favorites by Mr. Newman is "The Thirteenth Floor", his most awesome flute work. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WqN0RAuQDk[/url] Enjoy the music. |
Great clip, and your point re the politics of it all is well taken; a real shame. To use this musical term again, your post is a perfect "segue" to the Duke Pearson posts (accidental?...I don’t believe in "accidents"). Why a perfect segue? When I went to YouTube to listen to "The Right Touch" the first tune from the record that I listened to was "Scrap Iron": [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLyLUr7irfgtjwhmQXyJPV7bskqAPS2yei&v=0l-C1TeyeYA[/URL] When I first heard it the first thing that came to mind was: "its a slower tempo *Freddie Freeloader* from Miles’ KOB": [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RPfFhfSuUZ4[/URL] What do the tunes that Pepper plays on the interview/clip (and Freddie Freeloader) have in common? They are modal. KOB, is the acknowledged most important introduction of modal music to jazz. Much has been made on this thread (and everywhere else) about whether KOB deserves all the credit it gets. Believe me it does; there are no accidents. BTW, another reason that your clip is so fascinating to me is that I had never heard Pepper play so "hard" before. I mean the intensity with which he blows into the horn as opposed to the lighter approach of most of his playing on record. Yet another bow to the influence of Cannonball and even Coltrane (KOB)? No accident. |
I was reading about Art Pepper today, and came across this. It makes me sad and mad to think of his story. This has to be the only country that locks up it's creative people for taking drugs. He made some very interesting points in the short interview. Esp about having to mix the new with the old, so as to not lose the public. He did time in San Quinten. That's serious time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eabBiWdAyWM Cheers |
Duke Pearson: Excellent CD. What a difference Piano and Horns make!! Esp if they are Turrentine and Hubbard. Pearson does have a slightly bemused facial expression on the cover. Almost as if he is playing in the club / Bar, and he looks up, and sees three guys walk in. Sort of WTF-ish. Great example of Bear-Jazz, which is the only kind. In my Cart. Cheers |
calvinj, listened to "The Right Touch" last night on YouTube (gotta love YouTube); had not heard it before. "Overlooked" is an understatement. Killer record, and what a line-up! Grady Tate sounds fabulous; swinging with such a light touch. Freddie Hubbard is his usual brilliant self. Check out how, at 4:37 he quotes "Laura" with a twist to fit the harmony of the tune; gotta love it. [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3U-AyBtwISI[/URL] Turrentine; probably my favorite tenor sound ever: [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLyLUr7irfgtjwhmQXyJPV7bskqAPS2yei&v=0l-C1TeyeYA[/URL] [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LI-CM5o0D8k[/URL] Great Blue Note record that even a bear would like 😉 Thanks! |
calvinj, I looked around and only found downloads of his albums. No physical cds. All his downloadable cds are on his website: http://www.edmarcastaneda.com/#! -- Bob |
calvinj, this is the CD that I have: [URL]http://www.ebay.com/itm/EDMAR-CASTANEDA-WORLD-ENSEMBLE-LIVE-AT-THE-JAZZ-STANDARD-JAPAN-CD-G22-/37152...[/URL] |
Great joke and immediately brought to mind the great novel, "The Bear Comes Home." It's a story of a bear who also happens to be a jazz tenor player and his pursuit of music and perfection. Here's a wiki about the book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bear_Comes_Home -- Bob |
The discerning reading will note that the players in The Frogman's 'Joke' were presented as just three musicians who were friends. They were not presented as members of the same group, and more importantly, the sole members of that group. A deft sidestep if I ever saw one. Brilliant!! BTW, Brilliant Bear. Not only does this bear dig The Blues and Beethoven, he also defends the current defender of Jazz. Reminds me of someone I know. Cheers |
A Tombonist, a Harpist and a Drummer walk into their favorite bar, where they would get together two or three times a week for drinks and to talk shop after their gig. On this particular night, someone made the comment that teaching music to people isn’t really all that hard; a real challenge would be to teach a bear. One thing led to another and they decided to do an experiment. They would all go out into the woods, find a bear, teach it, and try to get it to understand music. Seven days later, they’re all together to discuss the experience. The trombonist, who has his arm in a sling, is on crutches, and has various bandages, goes first. "Well," he says, "I went into the woods to find me a bear. And when I found him I began explain the nuts and bolts of music. Well, that bear wanted nothing to do with me and began to slap me around. So I quickly grabbed my trombone, played a blues, and man he became as gentle as a lamb". The harpist spoke next. He was in a wheelchair, with an arm and both legs in casts, and an IV drip. "Well, I went into the woods and found a bear. I then began to explain the rudiments of harmony to my bear. But that bear wanted nothing to do with me. He took hold of me and we began to wrestle. We wrestled down one hill, up another and another until I managed to make it to my harp and began to play Beethoven. Wouldn’t you know it? The bear calmed down and began to purr". They both looked down at the drummer, who was lying in a hospital bed. He was in a body cast and traction with IV’s and monitors running in and out of him. He was in bad shape. The drummer looks up and says, "Looking back on it, explaining that Wynton Marsalis is not the best musician that ever lived may not have been the best way to start." |
The kid (from Indonesia) is amazing Check this out: [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1FggxlhxmqQ[/URL] |
Frogman, Glad you liked seeing Dave as an actor. Sorry to hear the news. I never met him, but have friends that knew him well. They all spoke highly of him. Orpheus10; You said, " Maybe we should accept new musicians for what they are, and what they have to offer without comparing them to the old." I'm in. I love finding great music I've never heard before. Here is one of those; Edmar Castaneda in New York. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no-9kJg68hw&fmt=18 |
